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 cheating in tax return 06/Mar/02  Natasha  USA  Massachusetts   Boston 

1    i am filling my first tax return.i am a single mother.i have really small income.
i had to send my son back home to my mother.hi is just four years old.
if i will claim as a dependant then i will have some extra money.i am going
to bring him here soon.
what is probability that IRS will catch me on it?
how do they know that he is not in the country? when we were leaving i do not
remember anybody checking our green cards.
please, give me an advice. i am afraid to be cought but money is really important for me now.the year was pretty difficult.
sorry for my english. thank you in advance.

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Response for: Natasha
Re:cheating in tax return
23/Mar/02   sergei  USA  New York   new york 

2    hi Natasha,

if you claim EIC - you will have extra $3000
but IRS will know if your son in US or not.
(he must be 6 months within US during 2001 to get this credit).

Meanwhile you might be able to get credit for another years.

you can see my tax articles at
www.1800student.com/money

or call me 917-529-2792

Sergei

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Response for: Natasha
Re:cheating in tax return
09/Mar/02   Ivan  USA  Arizona   t 

3    Natasha, a tiy sluchaino ne student? - potomu chto studentiy platit' nalogi ne dolzhniy, est' tax treaty, artcl. 18
Esli zhe tiy grazhdanin, to s 15k tebe dolzhniy biy dat' posobie na rebenka, esli on budet zhit' s toboi.

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Response for: Ivan
Re:Re:cheating in tax return
11/Mar/02   Natasha  USA  Massachusetts   Boston 

4    
Ivan, spasibo, chto proreagirovali.
K sojaleniu I ne student i ne grajdanin. I imeyu Green Card. I moi son imeet
Green Card i SSN. Pro posobie na rebenka nichego ne znaju.
Eshe ras spasibo. (Mne ochen' nravitsya vashe imya. Moi otez i moi son
Ivany toje).

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Response for: Natasha
Re:Re:Re:cheating in tax return
11/Mar/02   Ivan  USA  Arizona   t 

5    :) :) :)

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Response for: Ivan
Re:Re:Re:Re:cheating in tax return
11/Mar/02   Ivan  USA  Arizona   t 

6    a, da, naschet posobiya uznaite - ya k sozhaleniu ne v kurse, gde eto mozhno poluchit' - vozmozhno v DET (department of employment and training) mogut znat'.
znakomie znakomiyh piytalis' poluchit', no im ne dali iz-za slishkom bol'shiyh dohodov - tam dohodiy dolzhniy biyt' kak raz poryadke 15k, samo posobie kazhetsya ~$200/month. Eto vse chto ya znau. Esli ne smozhete naiti, sprosiv v DET, mozhno tsepochku viytaschit' i etot vopros reshit'.

good luck,

Ivan

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Response for: Natasha
Re:cheating in tax return
09/Mar/02   Irina Shkolnikova  USA  Massachusetts   Boston 

7    Natasha, po zakonu vash rebenok schitaets'a vashim dependentom, dage esli on s vami ne givet, esli vi oplachivaete bol'she polovini ego zatrat. Uslovie po sovmestnomu progivaniu rasprostran'aets'a tol'ko na lude', kotorie ne yavl'auts'a vashimi rosdtvennikami, no kotorih vi schitaete svoimi dependents. Edinstvennoe uslovie - eto chtobi vash rebenok bil Permanent Resident, t. e. imel Green Card.

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Response for: Irina Shkolnikova
Re:Re:cheating in tax return
11/Mar/02   Natasha  USA  Massachusetts   Boston 

8    
Zdravstvuite, Irina. Spasibo za vremya i vnimanie.
Moi son imeet Green Card. No I popadayu v tupik, kogda pitaus' vybrat' , kakoy box to check:
" No. of yuor children on 6c who:
- lived with you

- did not live with you due to divorce or separation

Dependents on 6c not entered above"

U menya poluchaetsya "Dependents on 6c not entered above", no instrukziya glazit sleduyushee:
"Include the total number of children who did not live with you for reasons other
than divorse or separation on the line labeled "Dependents on 6c not entered above". Include dependent children who lived in Canada or Mexico during 2001."
Estestvenno, nichego ne govoritsya o Rossii (tem bollee Kazakhstane,gde moi
son i nachoditsya), no I navernoe budu ispol'zovat' etot variant, t.k. ne vizhu
drugogo.
Eshe problema,chto Support I dokazat' prakticheski ne mogu, t.k. s moimi
dohodami I pol'zovaniya Western Union(8%) izbegala i peredavala den'gi chastnym obrazom s okasiey.Odna nadezhda, chto IRS mnoi s moimi 15k ne zainteresuetsya.
Zhali, konechno, chto I ne mogu imet' Earned income credit. No nichego ne popishesh'.
Spasibo za uchastie, Irina!

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Response for: Irina Shkolnikova
Re:Re:cheating in tax return
09/Mar/02   Igor  USA  Massachusetts   Boston 

9    Naschet dependents navernoe verno, a na schet Green Card neobizatelno, status Permanent Resident zavisit tolko ot kolichestva dnei projitix v US.

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Response for: Igor
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10/Mar/02   Irina Shkolnikova  USA  Massachusetts   Boston 

10    Igor, vi putaete status Residenta i Permanent Residenta. Residentom shtata vi schitaetes' posle toge kak progili kakoe-to kolichestvo dne' v shtate, a Permanent Resident - eto status vashego prebivani'a v US. Dl'a etogo nugna ili Green Card ili status begenca, pri kotorom vi schetaetes' Permanent Resident s pervogo dn'a progivani'a v strane. Dependent dolgen bit' Permanent Residentom.

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Response for: Irina Shkolnikova
Re:Re:Re:Re:cheating in tax return
10/Mar/02   Igor  USA  Massachusetts   Boston 

11    Da I imel vvidy chto ne nado imet Green Card dlia dependens, dostatochno bit prosto resident, Ivan(smotri) nije sovershenno prav. Moi primer: I naxojus na vise H1 obiavliau svoix roditelei dependens oni turisti na visa B projili so mnoi chelii god dlia etogo nado poluchit v mesto SSI -TPI(Tax Per ID) dlia nix.

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Response for: Irina Shkolnikova
Re:Re:Re:Re:cheating in tax return
10/Mar/02   Ivan  USA  Arizona   t 

12    Eto ne ta samaya Irina, kotoraya piytalas' pod vidom firmiy davat' konsul'tatsii?
Razreshite popravit' iskluchitel'no iz zhiznennogo opiyta. Est' Permanent resident for tax purposes ili prosto resident for tax purposes (kazhetsya tak v 1040 formuliruetsya); a est' ponyatiya resident alien i permanent resident. Pervoe - IRS, sleduuschie dva -INS. Dlya togo chtobiy biyt' resident for tax purposes, dostatochno nahodit'sya v strane opredelennoe vremya (kazhetsya 183 dnya). Estestvenno legal'no. Kak viy poluchite legal'nii status - imeya green card, ili kakuu-to esche vizu - IRS absolutno nevazhno.
Naprimer moya znakomaya zhivet zdes' , u nee H-1B i troe detei. Ess-no ona ih zapolnyaet kak dependents i poluchaet sootvetstvuuschuu skidku. Ya schas ne skazhu, po kakoi vize oni priehali, no eto legko viyasnit'. Hope that helps,

Ivan

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Response for: Ivan
Re:Re:cheating in tax return
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Response for: ������
Re:Re:Re:cheating in tax return
11/Mar/02   Ivan  USA  Arizona   t 

14    Nu, ya ne sobiraus' rugat'sya i viyvodit' kogo-to na chistuu vodu. Esche chego ne hvatalo. Upominalas' zhe mnoi istoriya kogda devushka po imeni Irina Shkol'nikova na etom samom forume neskol'ko mesyatsev nazad postavila post, gde predlozhila zadavat' voprosiy uridicheskogo haraktera i v nazvanii posta biyli ee imya i slovo "firma". Kakoi-to tovarisch poimal ee na neskol'kiyh neprostitel'niyh dlya u'rista netochnostyah (tipa teh chto seichas ya), biyla chut' li ne voina, po-moemu root potom vsu rugan' postiral, poischite podrobnosti na forume ili sprosite u nego (root'a), esli ne naidete.

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Response for: Ivan
Re:Re:Re:Re:cheating in tax return
11/Mar/02   Lera  USA  Connecticut   New Haven 

15    Da, chego vi dejstvitel'no k Irine privezalis', to? Ne otvechaet ona na voprosi "uridicheskogo haraktera". Vot link na ee forum
http://www.rusnetusa.com/fqarnu/message.asp?messageid=3787.=1000&categ;=0&sort;=0&kolvo;=75&forumid;=1&item;=no

A to, chto Umnik tut yakobi lovil ee na netochnostyah, tak on tut na vseh vileval ushat gryazi. I pravil'no Admin poudalyal vse, prosto protivno bilo - sploshnoj mat.
A u vas poluchilos' slishal zvon, a ne znayu gde on. Ochen' legko skazat' : "Eta tot nekompetentnij yurist, kotorij vidaval sebya za firmu". A okazalos' ne yurist, a CPA, i firmi nikakoj ne bilo....

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Response for: Ivan
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11/Mar/02   ������  USA  Massachusetts   Boston 

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Response for: ������
Re:Re:cheating in tax return
11/Mar/02   Ivan  USA  Arizona   t 

17    Dve fraziy: is vashego linka:
"Professional opinion! - Irina Shkolnikova ( Legal and Business Consulting)"
[t.e., perevozhu, predlozhenie professional'niyh konsul'tatsii, i dalee, tekste, "rabotau v odnoi iz "Big Five" public accounting firms"]
vtoraya fraz: iz moego post'a:
"Eto ne ta samaya Irina, kotorya piytalas' pod vidom firmiy davat' konsul'tatsii?"

Iz vashego posta, naskol'ko ya ponimau, sleduet, chto po vashemu mneniu eto drugaya Irina. Prekrasno, znachit na moi vopros-predpolozhenie otvet - "net, ne ta".
Period. Ya ne znal, i potomu postavil znak voprosa. Viy na nego otvetili, zaschitili dobroe imya svoego buhgaltera. Prekrasno. Ya nikogda ne hotel ee obidet',
i esli viy vse-taki obidelis', to ya ob etom iskrenne sozhaleu.
Esli zhe viy otritsaete sam fakt togo chto nekaya Irina piytalas' davat' konsult'atsii pod vidom firmiy, to:
Viy zhe sami upominaete golodnogo studenta - t.o. est' esche odna Irina Shkol'nikova, i vidimo chto v otnoshenii ee pretenzii vse zhe suschestvuut. Dalee ya nadeus', chto ne vse Iriniy Shkol'nikoviy budut zadetiy etim faktom. Vozmozhno ona postupila nekorrektno prikriyvshis' ch'im - to imenem, no eto uzhe ne moya problema. Kak ya skazal, o podobniyh faktah ya sozhaleu.

Post zhe cheloveka, nazvavshegosya Irinoi Shkol'nikovoi, i po-vidimomu yavlyauschegosya otdofamilt'sem vashego buhgaltera, v otvet na kotorii ya napisal svou popravku, soderzhal ochevidno nevernie dannie, prinyav kotorie na veru, mozhno bilo lishit'sya neskol'kiyh tiysyach tax-dollars.

T.o. obrazom, ya "sliyshal zvon", i pointeresovalsya, "otkuda on". Vot i vse. Miy viyasnili, chto k vashemu buhgalteru on otnosheniya ne imeet. Vopros, ya dumau, zakriyt.

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Response for: Natasha
Re:cheating in tax return
09/Mar/02   Solomon  USA  Illinois   Chicago 

18    Don't be stupid.Go to counter,he'll give you free advice.When I was maried,I
never payed the taxes,because I got big credit for child.I payed 300$ and got
600$ return.Ask profesional.

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Response for: Natasha
Re:cheating in tax return
06/Mar/02   Sirena  USA  Florida   Jax 

19    Natasha, you can claim yourself as a "Head of the household" since you are a single mom and you can claim your child as a dependant if he lived with you at least six months out of the last year. I don't know what the chances are of IRS doing an audit on you, they are done randomly, but from what I've heard, they are not pleasant. Good luck!

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Response for: Sirena
Re:Re:cheating in tax return
06/Mar/02   Sirena  USA  Florida   Jax 

20    One more thing, if your income was less than $10,000 last year, you might qualify for an "Earned Income Credit". If you have questions about how to calculate your tax, you can e-mail me [email protected]

regards,
Sirena

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Response for: Sirena
Re:Re:Re:cheating in tax return
06/Mar/02   Natasha  USA  Massachusetts   Boston 

21     Thank You very much, Sirena. My son had been out of USA all 2001 year .
By low I can not claim him as a dependant. And I had income 15,000 dollars.
It means I can not take "Earned Income Credit" as well (at list legally).
And it is pity because he is my dependent any way even being there.
Thanks a lot again.
Good luck to You too.

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